{"id":1981,"date":"2014-02-07T20:36:45","date_gmt":"2014-02-08T04:36:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/?p=1981"},"modified":"2025-12-15T10:25:35","modified_gmt":"2025-12-15T18:25:35","slug":"measure-rechargeable-battery-capacity-ultrafire-3500-review","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/blog\/measure-rechargeable-battery-capacity-ultrafire-3500-review\/","title":{"rendered":"Measure Rechargeable Battery Capacity (UltraFire 3500 Review)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Recently, I found AA-size NiMH rechargeable batteries, <strong>3500 mAh<\/strong> capacity, at tmart.com, $3.59 for a <em>set of 4<\/em>, with free shipping, too. That was like 90\u00a2 each! \u00a0I ordered two sets, and they arrived in about 3 days.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1982\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1982\" style=\"width: 640px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/UltraFire-3500.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1982\" alt=\"The labeling is very basic - not a fault in itself, but this clearly isn't a brand-name product.  Notice that the direction of the words is not consistent across batteries - in this picture, one battery has the top button on the right, and the others have the button to the left.\" src=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/UltraFire-3500.jpg\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/UltraFire-3500.jpg 640w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/UltraFire-3500-100x75.jpg 100w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/UltraFire-3500-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/UltraFire-3500-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1982\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The labeling is very basic &#8211; not a fault in itself, but this clearly isn&#8217;t a brand-name product. Notice that the direction of the words is not consistent across batteries &#8211; in this picture, one battery has the top button on the right, and the others have the button to the left.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The batteries came shrink-wrapped in sets of 4. I immediately noticed how light they were. Lightweight batteries worry me. Years ago, there were very inexpensive rechargeable NiCd D cells, that were really AA batteries encased in a foam shell. Besides the weight, the way you could tell that those were really smaller batteries was to look on the label, and notice that they were marked as 800 mAh or even 600 mAh.<\/p>\n<p>But then again, I had misgivings about lithium when it first came out. It was light, but packed a wallop. I looked carefully at the labels on the UltraFires. There were recycle symbols with &#8220;Ni-MH&#8221; printed beneath them. And they <em>did<\/em> say 3500 mAh. \u00a0Maybe they were some new technology? I decided to give them the benefit of the doubt.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1986\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1986\" style=\"width: 1010px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-UltraFire-3500.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1986\" alt=\"The scale confirms that the battery is light - only 16 grams.\" src=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-UltraFire-3500.jpg\" width=\"1010\" height=\"1348\" srcset=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-UltraFire-3500.jpg 1010w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-UltraFire-3500-74x100.jpg 74w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-UltraFire-3500-224x300.jpg 224w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-UltraFire-3500-767x1024.jpg 767w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1010px) 100vw, 1010px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1986\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The scale confirms that the battery is very light &#8211; only 16 grams.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1985\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1985\" style=\"width: 640px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-Panasonic-2100.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1985\" alt=\"This Panasonic battery is only rated at 2100 mAh, and it weighs a solid 29 grams.\" src=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-Panasonic-2100.jpg\" width=\"640\" height=\"852\" srcset=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-Panasonic-2100.jpg 640w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-Panasonic-2100-75x100.jpg 75w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-Panasonic-2100-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1985\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">This Panasonic battery is only rated at 2100 mAh, and it weighs a solid 29 grams.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1983\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1983\" style=\"width: 640px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-Green1600.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1983\" alt=\"Even this generic 1600 mAh battery weighs 26 grams.  I got this one perhaps 15 or 20 years ago, and it's still good.\" src=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-Green1600.jpg\" width=\"640\" height=\"853\" srcset=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-Green1600.jpg 640w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-Green1600-75x100.jpg 75w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-Green1600-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1983\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Even this generic 1600 mAh battery weighs 26 grams. I got this one perhaps 15 or 20 years ago, and it&#8217;s still good.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1984\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1984\" style=\"width: 640px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-Nexcell-AAA.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1984\" alt=\"Even this smaller AAA battery weighs 12 grams.\" src=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-Nexcell-AAA.jpg\" width=\"640\" height=\"853\" srcset=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-Nexcell-AAA.jpg 640w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-Nexcell-AAA-75x100.jpg 75w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Weigh-Nexcell-AAA-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1984\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Even this smaller AAA battery weighs 12 grams.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The batteries actually arrived in a charged state, and I read about 1.31 volts open circuit with my DVM. Then I set the meter to current, and measured a short circuit current of about 3 amps. It was a bit low, but not unreasonable. Besides, the batteries might not have been fully charged. I saw people on the tmart site advising that the batteries should be charged for 16 to 18 hours, so to be sure, I left them in the charger for 48 hours.<\/p>\n<p>I put two of the batteries in my point and shoot camera, and went on a bike ride for Merrianne&#8217;s (my wife&#8217;s) birthday.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1987\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1987\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Banana-Leaf.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1987\" alt=\"I took 16 pictures and one 30-second video on the trip.\" src=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Banana-Leaf-300x225.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Banana-Leaf-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Banana-Leaf-100x75.jpg 100w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Banana-Leaf-400x300.jpg 400w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Banana-Leaf.jpg 640w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1987\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">I took 16 pictures and one 30-second video on the trip.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Before the ride was over the camera said the batteries were low. Not good! So I decided to build a tester to see how much capacity these batteries really had.<\/p>\n<p>Design notes <a href=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Battery-Tester-Notes.pdf\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Battery-Capacity-Tester.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1988\" alt=\"Battery Capacity Tester\" src=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Battery-Capacity-Tester.jpg\" width=\"640\" height=\"651\" srcset=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Battery-Capacity-Tester.jpg 640w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Battery-Capacity-Tester-98x100.jpg 98w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Battery-Capacity-Tester-294x300.jpg 294w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1989\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1989\" style=\"width: 882px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/battery_test.gif\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-1989\" title=\"Battery Tester Schematic\" alt=\"battery_test\" src=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/battery_test.gif\" width=\"882\" height=\"665\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1989\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Click on the picture to see the full-size version.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>This is one of the rare cases where I&#8217;m using a MOSFET in the linear region. My favorite PICAXE processor generates a pulse width modulated (PWM) 4 kHz output, which is filtered by R3 and C3 to create a voltage on the gate of Q1. The processor contains embedded A\/D converters, so can monitor the voltage across sense resistor R4, and dynamically adjust the PWM to make the average current constant. C2 is important for stabilizing the battery voltage which would otherwise be noisy. C2 does not dissipate power in theory, so should not disturb the readings. \u00a0Each minute, a reading of the battery voltage is sent over the serial port to the pididu.com server, where it is logged into a file for later graphing.<\/p>\n<p>The program I&#8217;m using is <a href=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/battery_characterizer.txt\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>To make sure the circuit was working, I first tested a Panasonic 2100 mAh AA on my setup. It appeared to have about 17 hours of useful life at a 100 mAh drain, or 1700 mAh. But notice that for batteries, the rating is for milliamp-hours, not watt-hours. So if we look at the time that the battery is supplying 100 mAh, regardless of voltage, we get 20.25 hours, meaning 2025 mAh. Very close to the label rating, and impressive, considering that the battery is not new, but has been in use for about 2 years.<\/p>\n<p>The second test was on an UltraFire 3500 straight out of the charger. The capacity, using the more generous mAh rating, was 626 mAh. Not only did that battery not live up to its claimed 3500 mAh rating, it was a poor AA battery by any standards.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2006\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2006\" style=\"width: 856px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/BatTestResult2.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\" wp-image-2006\" alt=\"BatTestResult2\" src=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/BatTestResult2.png\" width=\"856\" height=\"490\" srcset=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/BatTestResult2.png 856w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/BatTestResult2-100x57.png 100w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/BatTestResult2-300x171.png 300w, http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/BatTestResult2-500x286.png 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 856px) 100vw, 856px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2006\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The UltraFire 350AAHC had a capacity of 626 mAh, by the most generous rating. The actual useful capacity is closer to 500 mAh.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I plan to test a few other batteries, and will report results in a later post.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Recently, I found AA-size NiMH rechargeable batteries, 3500 mAh capacity, at tmart.com, $3.59 for a set of 4, with free shipping, too. That was like 90\u00a2 each! \u00a0I ordered two sets, and they arrived in about 3 days. The batteries came shrink-wrapped in sets of 4. I immediately noticed how light they were. Lightweight batteries &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/blog\/measure-rechargeable-battery-capacity-ultrafire-3500-review\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Measure Rechargeable Battery Capacity (UltraFire 3500 Review)<\/span> <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[66],"tags":[88,92,87,90,95,91,94,89,83,86,93,221,85,84],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1981"}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1981"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1981\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3393,"href":"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1981\/revisions\/3393"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1981"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1981"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1981"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}