{"id":1535,"date":"2012-11-20T11:31:15","date_gmt":"2012-11-20T19:31:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/?p=1535"},"modified":"2017-10-16T14:16:08","modified_gmt":"2017-10-16T22:16:08","slug":"fix-internet-disconnect-on-phone-pick-up-or-hang-up","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/pididu.com\/wordpress\/blog\/fix-internet-disconnect-on-phone-pick-up-or-hang-up\/","title":{"rendered":"Fix Internet Disconnect on phone pick up or hang up"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Whenever the phone was picked up or hanged up, the internet would go out for about 30 seconds<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

In 2005, we finally got “high-speed” internet, which meant 1.5 Mbps DSL from SBC Global (the phone company). It was like magic compared to the 56k dial-up modem we had before. But every time we hung up the phone, the internet would disconnect, and not come back for 30 seconds. At first, I thought that was normal, but later, heard that DSL was supposed to let you conduct your phone calls without interruption of the internet. What we had was an annoyance, but only an annoyance, since we only got a few calls a night at most.<\/p>\n

Astoundingly, we lived with this issue for seven years, through three Internet Service Providers. \u00a0Then, in 2012, we switched to sonic.net. \u00a0It was ADSL-2 service, so they shipped us a new modem. \u00a0Since it was a transfer from another provider, no one ever came to our house. \u00a0At first, the speed was superb, but it degraded down to between 1.5 and 4.0 Mbps with time. \u00a0All right, time to debug.<\/p>\n

Check the DSL Filters<\/h2>\n
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Make sure that all phones, including answering machines and auto dial-back alarm systems, have DSL filters.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

The first thing the internet said to do was make sure that every device on the phone line,\u00a0except the DSL modem,\u00a0<\/em>had a DSL filter on it. \u00a0Yup. \u00a0But what about phone jacks that had nothing plugged in? \u00a0Did they need a DSL filter, too? \u00a0I put filters even on those, just flapping in the breeze. \u00a0No difference. \u00a0The thought crossed my mind that I might have a flaky filter somewhere, so\u00a0I rotated through several different brands of filters from different sources. \u00a0No change.<\/p>\n

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Unnecessary filter on modem line<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

I even tried putting a filter on the modem, using the dual-port filter supplied, and connecting the modem to the “computer” port. It made no difference whatsoever. Just so you know, inside that dual port filter, the connection from the plug to the computer port is just a wire.<\/p>\n

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No filter is needed between the modem and the phone<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

I took the filter off and plugged the modem straight back into the phone jack.<\/p>\n

Okay, call support<\/h2>\n
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Much better<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Unable to affect the speed issue on my own, I called sonic.net support. The guy there looked at my line, and said that they had a “speed optimizer” on it. What is a speed optimizer? It’s an agent that watches if the line is unreliable, and if so, ratchets down the speed until it is reliable. He said that there appeared to be noise on the line, but said he would disable the speed optimizer. Then he said to try it, while we were still on the phone. I did. Hooray! He warned that whatever was making the optimizer kick in was still there, but that now the problem should be blatant, and easier to find. I was thinking to myself that whatever caused our disconnect problem was likely what had triggered the optimizer.<\/p>\n

So we went on for a while with blazing fast speed, but still the same disconnect issue. And since it was October 2012, just before highly contested National, State, and City elections, political telemarketers were calling\u00a0our phone every few minutes. The answering machine would pick it up, and the internet would temporarily go out, all night long. Enough was enough! Time for serious experiments.<\/p>\n

Test Setup<\/h2>\n
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This is the interface box. Primary phone line is the jack on the left, secondary line is the jack on the right. Phone company only access section is under the gray cover.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

I decided to cut the problem in half – was it inside the house (wiring, phones, filters), or outside? So I went to the Network Interface Device (phone box) outside the house, disconnected the entire house from the phone line coming in, and connected the minimal test configuration sketched below. Basically, it was just one phone, the modem, and a laptop.<\/p>\n

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Test setup to exclude all house wiring.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

The problem still happened, even that way. I sent an email to sonic.net support, detailing the experiment, and they sent me a boilerplate list of things to try first.<\/p>\n

Suggestions from support<\/h2>\n
Do you have an alarm system installed?\r\n If so, is it properly filtered as well?<\/pre>\n
No alarm system.<\/p>\n
UPS -\u00a0An uninterruptible power supply (UPS) too close to the\r\n DSL modem will cause problems...<\/pre>\n
No UPS.<\/p>\n
2.4GHz wireless signal -\u00a0A wireless phone base station does put out\r\n a signal strong enough to affect DSL...<\/pre>\n
True, we do have wireless phones. \u00a0But the test configuration had an old-fashioned corded phone. \u00a0Just to make sure, I unplugged power from all the wireless phones, and only used the corded one. \u00a0Same problem.<\/p>\n
Halogen Lights...<\/pre>\n
No halogen lights.<\/p>\n
Dimmer Switch...<\/pre>\n
No dimmer switches.<\/p>\n
Ham radio -\u00a0Some Ham Radio installations can overpower DSL signals.<\/pre>\n
Fair enough. \u00a0I didn’t see any amateur radio antennas in our neighborhood, but even if someone was broadcasting, how could it correlate with picking up the phone?<\/p>\n
Speakers - \u00a0The subwoofer that most gamers have under their\r\n desks are great for sound, but bad for DSL...<\/pre>\n
No powerful speakers, only little speakers, and they were nowhere near the modem.<\/p>\n
Flickering street light -\u00a0This is a rarer cause for loss of sync,\r\n but really easy to identify. If the loss of sync occurs every\r\n night about dark, have the end user look on the street for a\r\n nearby street light that is having problems...<\/pre>\n
Happens any time of day, and only when phone is picked up.<\/p>\n
Flashing lights, such as Christmas decorations\r\nA microwave oven\r\nA timer motor for lights or watering the lawn\r\nA television or computer monitor (CRT)\r\nA motor (a fan in a bathroom, furnace, oven, or ceiling)\r\nA darkness sensing outdoor light, even at a place down next door<\/pre>\n
We can keep dancing around like this, or we can try to figure out what correlates with phone answer and hang up.<\/p>\n
If all of this is not applicable to your situation, I'd ask that\r\n you call us up at 1-888-766-4233. We'd like to see if your phone\r\n box includes a device called a Maintenance Test Unit or MTU.\r\n These were installed in phone boxes leading up to the 1980s and\r\n can cause numerous disruptions with a DSL connection, including\r\n symptoms that you've mentioned.<\/pre>\n
Now you’re talking! \u00a0The house was built in 1974. \u00a0I called them back, and they said they could schedule the phone company to make a service call. \u00a0However, they warned that if the problem was inside the house, like my wiring or equipment, then I would be charged. \u00a0No problem. \u00a0On account of my experiment, I was confident that the problem was not in the house. \u00a0[Incidentally, I found it surprising that they could not test for the presence of the MTU from their end without dispatching a truck. Oh, well.<\/em>]<\/p>\n
Larry the Phone Tech Finds the Problem<\/h2>\n
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Maintenance Test Unit, the troublemaker<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n
At the appointed time, Larry the phone guy showed up. \u00a0I was prepared to demonstrate my experiment to him if need be, but after explaining the issue to him, he went to the phone box, and used his special screwdriver to remove the No Customer Access plate. \u00a0He found an MTU in there, snipped it out, and spliced the remaining wires, red to red, green to green. \u00a0It took all of five minutes. \u00a0He then said to go in the house and try it. \u00a0SUCCESS!<\/strong> \u00a0Our DSL had become completely immune to phone pickup and hangup.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"
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